[CALUG] repartitioning on the fly

[David Salinas]

>>>>How and where am I a hypocrite? In this thread or others? I invite
your 
feedback, but be aware that the burden of proof is on you.>>>

Let me count the ways...

You accuse Jason of being too literal when your posts are littered with
broad ABSOLUTE statements...

"What is Officially called "RHEL 4.1" or "Red Hat Advanced Server 4.1"
is being called "Red Hat 4.1" by people on the street (or at least the
net) these days, including the original poster."

Hmmm, how about we find out what she really meant by letting her reply?
So, I don't care what "people on the streets" are calling it. Lets
address specific question at hand.

"So she COULDN'T POSSIBLY mean that."

Oh, really? It's NOT POSSIBLE? How about we find out? Again with your
revisionist logic. How about we just guess without first VERIFYING it
first? This is just another example of your broad statements not
related to the post. How about the POSSIBILITY that some novice posters
don't actually know much about their systems and may have mistaken RH
4.1 for AS 4.1. It happens. And I never assume until I ASK THEM!
Something that is sorely missing from your ASSUMPTION!

"Besides, anyone playing with Linux back in those days probably
wouldn't ask a question like that."

ANYONE? Really? How about someone that inherits a system that is not
familiar with it. I've seen that before. Just like Dave Dodge said,
there are times when people are put in charge of support of an old
system. It can happen. I don't care if it's low probability. The point
is to ask just to make sure. 

"My point is that you should have been able to figure out that she was
talking about RHEL AS 4.1 rather than the decade-old Red Hat 4.1."

Not with a novice poster and not without first finding out first! Do
you think that we are mind readers? Talk about making assumptions AFTER
the fact. 

Here's a gem...

"Sorry. While I agree that in theory, assumptions are bad, they are all
we have to go on. And we make assumptions all the time!"

Pot meet kettle...

"Now I haven't heard anyone say Red Hat 4.1 either"

Oh! Wow! You say that you haven't heard anyone call the OS Red Hat 4.1
either, yet in an earlier post you say the following...

""What is Officially called "RHEL 4.1" or "Red Hat Advanced Server 4.1"
is being called "Red Hat 4.1" by people on the street (or at least the
net) these days, including the original poster."

Talk about a CONTRADICTION! Wam!

Here's something you say that Jason should have said...

""Wow! Red Hat 4.1 is almost 10 years old. You don't by any chance mean
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Advanced Server 4.1 do you? If the former, you
need to upgrade. If the latter, here's what you need to do...?"

Interesting! Want to see some circular logic? I could always use your
logic and say, "Jason! Why even ask about Red Hat 4.1? You should have
known that she meant RHEL 4.1!" 

Do you see how easy that is? That's what you did!

"P.S. Do you really think that the SEC has old servers running 4.1??? I
doubt it!" 

Moot point. It doesn't matter what we ASSUME. The point is that we
should find out. Then we go from there. So you can doubt all you want.
Verify it.

Later Dave Cafro replies that he's one out of 5 that assumed what Joan
was saying. 

Then, you follow with this "witty" comeback!

"There's one born every minute."

One what? Come on. Tell us what you really think of the five posters
(six, including me).

Dave Dodge goes on to talk about how there are many instances where
government agencies have old OS running on legacy systems (Solaris).
And you follow it up how Linux matures faster and how it's NOT likely
that the SEC could use an old Linux.

Again, not the point that Dave Dodge was trying to make. He was
refuting your point that there's NO WAY that government agencies could
be running an old OS -- considering you were SO sure that it wasn't
POSSIBLE! Who care if it's not likely. Again, find out! Ask! Verify! 

You then say,

"I am suprised that such a conservative organization is even running
Linux..."

Then go on a rant about "the SEC is about money and it's is serious
business, not an environment  for tinkering."

No tinkering huh? Oh, yes...All of the SEC just get systems out of the
box; plug-and-play. There's NO possible way that they have programers
and SAs that actually do work on older systems. Nah...

Another...

"And like I said, you might do a double-take, but upon further
reflection *should realize* that *these days*, the number 4.1 means
RHEL. You are going to hear this usage more and more."

Uh, upon further reflection you still have to FIND OUT. 

Another assumption...

*should realize* that *these days*, the number 4.1 means RHEL. You are
going to hear this usage more and more. Get used to it."

I guess you forgot that you yourself said that you haven't heard anyone
call it Red Hat 4.1. LOL! Then you want us to "get used to it" when
it's a rarely used term. BOO-YA!

I'll keep a look out for that "street" Red Hat 4.1 term. But most will
still call it RHEL 4.x or Enterprise or AS 4.1. Get used to it!