[CALUG] Best programming app

Mon Nov 21 13:56:36 CST 2005

Well, you've given me the courage to make my first
"contribution" to the LUG. I too am a long-time
Windows user making the transition to Linux. Having
built an entire career around Visual Basic I was
somewhat adrift in this new environment. Then I
stumbled across Gambas (Gambas Almost Means Basic).
While I've only just progressed past the "Hello World"
stage, I'm amazed at what you can do. At least I get
to leverage my familiarity with the language toward
building apps on Linux. Its also great at protecting
you from some of the all too common pitfalls of VB6
(On Error Goto...). Try and Catch seems a more nimble
method of error handling. It retains the one big
advantage of VB, rapid application prototyping. If
you're experimenting anyway, you might want to give it
a try.

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> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:49:41 -0500
> From: "Rick Radzville" <rradzville at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] Best programming app
> To: lug at calug.com
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> Wow. I'm an expert microsoftie, linux newbie. This
> comment is the reason why 
> I'm experimenting w/Linux. Jim, would you mind
> sharing a few more details? 
> When you refer to "data", are you talking about "a
> listing of the 
> directories & files on the user's PC" or "a
> database"?
> v/r,
> Rick Radzville
> 
> 
> >From: Jim Sansing <jjsansing at comcast.net>
> >To: lug at calug.com
> >Subject: Re: [CALUG] Best programming app
> >Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:43:17 -0500
> >
> >I don't know about supercharged, but powerful
> definitely.  I just
> >love showing off in front of the microsofties at
> work, by pulling
> >their data over to Linux, getting a listing of
> files and then using vi
> >regexp's and commands to modify it, and giving them
> back.  All
> >of this takes a couple of minutes in vi, where it
> would take an
> >hour or more with the best M$ has to offer
> (whatever that
> >might be).
> >
> >And it seems like I learn a new feature each month.
>  So as powerful
> >as I have found it to be, I feel like I am using
> less than half of what
> >it is capable of doing.  So come to think of it,
> it's really not a stretch
> >to say that by taking full advantage of the PC101
> keyboard (vim) and
> >the mouse (gvim) is supercharging the already
> powerful vi.
> >
> >Later . . .   Jim
> >
> >
> >Bryan Breen wrote:
> > >Dave Dodge wrote:
> > >
> > >>There are plenty of career programmers who work
> in vi, or one of
> > >>its supercharged variants such as vim.
> > >>
> > >
> > >ROFLMAO! "supercharged"... I do all my web page
> development and
> > >programming in vim, and that is the last
> adjective I would have ever
> > >though of to describe it. I'll have a smile on my
> face for the rest of
> > >the day now. :)
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:38:32 +0000
> From: junekis at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [CALUG] Best programming app
> To: Carlos Astrada <castrada at comcast.net>,
> lug at calug.com
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> Carlos,
> 
>   I have scanned some answers you are getting, and I
> think we are suffering from "Tower of babel"
> syndrome here.
> 
>   I suspect that when you say "powerful" in regards
> to programming, you are looking for an Integrated
> Development Environement (IDE) that keeps track of
> which software modules are used by each other, lets
> you automatically compile and link, has libraries of
> drag-and-drop routines to insert in new programs,
> tracks code versioning, etc.
> 
>   Unfortunately, when a "cult-of-unix"
> propeller-head hears the word "powerful", he
> typically is thinking of a bare-wires interface that
> does absolutely nothing to assist the user, but
> instead gives him the "power" to write his own
> string-manipulation scripts in an arcane syntax
> known only to a handful of illuminati.
> 
> I kinda of suspect that you might get some mileage
> out of CASE tools like:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/objectbuilder/
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jag/
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/t4bi-kf/
> 
> There's lots more listed on
> http://www.sourceforge.net
> 
> 
> > I think I was a bit too vague earlier. I am
> looking for the best, in
> > your opinions, application for programming. I want
> something that is
> > powerful and efficient to use. I am trying to get
> away from learning to
> > program via VI. 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
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