[CALUG] Mailing List Removal (was RE: Ruby and Rusty Rails)

Rick Radzville rradzville at gmail.com
Thu Oct 19 19:10:01 CDT 2006

Are you asking because managers never know how to do anything, or
because architects never know the details of how anything works? Or is
it just because you're too technical to RTFM? Here's the link:

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces at calug.com [mailto:lug-bounces at calug.com] On Behalf Of
M-Saadoun DBA Manager
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:00 PM
To: clinton at unknownlamer.org; JECottrell3 at Comcast.NET; lug at calug.com
Subject: Re: [CALUG] Ruby and Rusty Rails

Hi All
How can I get out of this mailing list , please advice


Mohamed Saadoun
Technical DBA-Manager
& Solution Architector

>From: Clinton Ebadi <clinton at unknownlamer.org>
>To: James Ewing Cottrell 3rd <JECottrell3 at Comcast.NET>, lug at calug.com
>Subject: Re: [CALUG] Ruby and Rusty Rails
>Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:43:56 -0400
>James Ewing Cottrell 3rd <JECottrell3 at Comcast.NET> writes:
> > Speaking of LISP, HTML and XML would have worked much better as
> > S-expressions. Consider:
> >
> > (html ()
> > (head () (title () A Web Page))
> > (body ()
> > (h2 ((color . red)(font . times)) Off With His Head!)
> > (p ((color . black) Curiouser (i () and) curiouser.)))
>What you describe is essentially 3NF of SXML which is much much nicer
>to work with than XML in any non-Lisp/Scheme language. Whenever I have
>to transform XML docs for work (they insist on using PHP due to
>general lack of brain power / "we can't have you become
>irreplacement") I write a scheme program to do it. XSLT sucks compared
>to SXSLT (or even just using the Scheme list operations on the XML).
>I used to hate XML but now I tolerate it since it's so easy to process
>in my favorite language as it is merely a tree. The external
>representation is of little consequence when you can write tools to
>easily deal with it (e.g. it'd be trivial to make nxml-mode in emacs
>display the document as an sexp if you really wanted).
>Common Lisp has cxml (which is basically SXML with the @ to start the
>attributes alist) for parsing and transforming XML, and UCW includes
>yaclml that is great for generating XML (you can translate Zope TAL
>templates into it, define your own tag macros, ...).
>'Obsolete' 1950s technology proving itself to be better than
>everything else out that for the problems that the industry wants to
>solve nowadays. I say let the unwashed masses suffer with their lesser
>languages while those of us who can use the good ones safe much effort
>and profit more.
>Jabber:clinton at hcoop.net AIM:unknownlamer IRC:unknown_lamer at fnode#hcoop
>I'm just thinking aloud; isn't thinking allowed?
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