[CALUG] Difference between telinit and init

Greg Haase haaseg at onefreevoice.com
Mon Aug 28 15:14:08 CDT 2006


Well, I think we're both looking at this from an extreme viewpoint. You
are right to say that the circumstances do not differ all that much. But
by the same token, the difference between running "-t 300" and "at" is
probably so negligible that you really can't call one of them "best". In
cases such as this, the first thing your hands automatically type is the
best, because at that point it's already done. If you're used to telinit -
that's the best. If you're used to init - that's the best. You certainly
aren't restarting machines often enough for the fraction of a second it
takes to type "t" "e" "l" to make any difference. If you *are* restarting
machines that often, there's another, more serious, problem at stake.

I agree that feature creep is an issue, and I'd rather have several
programs that do one thing really well than have one program that does
several things badly.



> What I would prefer is that I would agree with the guy who made the
> choice. By leaving all the other choice in, there is a guaranteed
> non-zero probability that other people will use them, and that you will
> have to deal with the results.
>
> Of course, it's easy to throw a bunch of features together and "let
> people choose". What is Difficult is to find the Best one.
>
> We don't need More Choices, we need Better ones. In fact, I would argue
> that you have NO choice. You are forced to make the Best choice or risk
> being labeled (by yourself as well as others) as suboptimal.
>
> And I disagree that circumstances differ all that much. Well, of course
> they do, but much less than you would think.
>
> JIM
>
> Greg Haase wrote:
>> While you would prefer someone else to determine what's best for you, I
>> would prefer to make that choice myself. Options give us the ability to
>> figure out the best way to achieve a particular task, in a particular
>> environment, given a particular set of requirements and circumstances,
>> at
>> a particular time.
>>
>> -G
>>
>>
>>>I generally dislike this saying. I would much rather that people figure
>>>out the Best Way to do it, and then provide THAT way. That's the Python
>>>Philosopy (note: I don't really know python, and have been using perl
>>>for a good 15 years) and to some extent the UNIX Philosphy as well.
>>>
>>>I hope Ruby or Java catches on...perl is a mixed blessing. Or rather, a
>>>mixed curse.
>>>
>>>JIM
>>>
>>>Chris Edillon wrote:
>>>
>>>> i guess my point was, to nod
>>>>towards my Perl proclivities, "there's more than one [simple]
>>>>way to do it".
>>>
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