[CALUG] Google Earth V4beta (was:Re: How do I get out of X?)

[Edward D. Browne]

    Thanks for all the very informative responses.  The CTRL-ALT-F1 tip
from Alan was good to know, but in the end led to a *different* mysterious
problem with my configuration - when I go to the root login screen and do
the "init 3" thing, my boot sequence hangs up on the last line in 
/etc/rc, namely
"usr/bin/rhgb-client --ping".  Well, that didn't seem essential, so I 
commented
it out - but it hung then on whatever comes after that (what, if 
anything, comes
after the execution of /etc/rc.d/rc?)  Don't know what's up with that.
    So I ended up doing what Jim suggested, changing my initdefault 
level to 3,
and then doing my business there (I tried it at level 1, but the NVidia 
install
script demanded that I go to level 3.)  Much to my surprise, my upgrade
actually worked, without leaving me cursing a non-bootable computer, as
so often happens to me.
    The reason I did this was to try GoogleEarth V4Beta which as I'm sure
you all know works on Linux.  It said it needed a driver upgrade for my
graphics card, hence all the foregoing.  With the upgrade, it does run.
Call me a nerd, but I think it is *really* cool!  And it runs on Linux!

Thanks again - Ed

Chris Edillon wrote:

>On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 12:25 -0400, Jim Sansing wrote:
>  
>
>>John Alan Hastings wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Browne at t-online.de wrote:
>>> 
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Hmmm, guess I haven't needed to do this since quite a few
>>>>releases ago.  I'm trying to upgrade my graphics driver
>>>>(to NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run), which means
>>>>I have to get out of X.  As I recall, there was always a menu
>>>>option at the login screen to log in without X running, but now
>>>>with RH AS3, I see no such option.  Killing X, and everything
>>>>that looks connected to X, only results in it automatically
>>>>restarting.   init 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 (it doesn't seem to matter)
>>>>just causes the machine to reboot all the way back to run
>>>>level 6.  What obvious solution am I missing?
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>  nothing, running "init 3" should do the right thing.  if this
>isn't the case, it sounds like the box doesn't have a default
>configuration for init.  and i think you probably mean that the
>box returns to runlevel 5, since 6 is the runlevel the machine
>enters to reboot. (that can be fun, btw, setting someone's default
>runlevel to 6 and watching the excitement :)
>  at any rate, your machine may be set to run X in more runlevels
>than the default of 5.  look in /etc/inittab for a line that looks
>like this:
>
>x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon
>
>"respawn" is what causes X to restart when you kill the server.
>if the second field has something like "345" in it, init will
>run the X server and graphical login in runlevels 3, 4, and 5
>instead of the default of just 5.
>
>  
>
>>>It doesn't sound quite right.  Init 3 should take you to full multiuser
>>>with net but without X.  Init 4 should be undefined and I don't know
>>>what it would do.
>>>      
>>>
>
>  on a newly-loaded RedHat/Fedora box, runlevel 4 is most likely
>identical to runlevel 3 in terms of what services are started
>in that runlevel.  if you subsequently add software which hooks
>into the init sequence, it probably gets added only to runlevel 3.
>i say "most likely" 'cause i don't have anything to look at other
>than my fedora box at the moment, but i don't recall there being
>any real differences between runlevels 3 and 4 on a RedHat box in
>quite a while.
>
>  
>
>>There should be a boot option, but I have never been able find out if
>>it is 'init=n' or 'runlevel=n' or something else (anyone? ;~).
>>
>>    
>>
>  just add "3" or whatever runlevel you want to enter to the
>kernel arguments at the grub prompt, similar to adding "s" when
>you want to enter single user mode.  using "init=" will tell
>the kernel to run whatever program you point to instead of
>/sbin/init.
>
>  
>
>># runlevel 2  is  Local multiuser without remote network (e.g. NFS)
>># runlevel 3  is  Full multiuser with network
>>    
>>
>
>these almost sound like Solaris definitions.  the network
>stack itself is on in both 2 and 3, although NFS and its
>companions aren't.  here's the list of differences on a
>default fedora box:
>
>acpid                   2:off   3:on
>atd                     2:off   3:on
>autofs                  2:off   3:on
>cups-config-daemon      2:off   3:on
>haldaemon               2:off   3:on
>kudzu                   2:off   3:on
>mDNSResponder           2:off   3:on
>messagebus              2:off   3:on
>netfs                   2:off   3:on
>nfslock                 2:off   3:on
>nifd                    2:off   3:on
>portmap                 2:off   3:on
>rhnsd                   2:off   3:on
>rpcgssd                 2:off   3:on
>rpcidmapd               2:off   3:on
>xinetd                  2:off   3:on
>
>
>chris
>
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